sundevil
05-31 03:04 PM
http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/reference/b_three_sections_with_teasers/glossary.htm
I don't think it bodes well for anything that is sent to the Table. This Senate Language Glossary has what "motion to table" means, essentially something that senate does not want to Consider. This Amendment(1249) is said to have been ordered "to lie on the table" not sure if it is same as the motion to table. But, I think we should hope for an amendment that does not have a table associated with its status.
I don't think it bodes well for anything that is sent to the Table. This Senate Language Glossary has what "motion to table" means, essentially something that senate does not want to Consider. This Amendment(1249) is said to have been ordered "to lie on the table" not sure if it is same as the motion to table. But, I think we should hope for an amendment that does not have a table associated with its status.
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Macaca
09-21 07:08 PM
I didnt attend the rally because I thought there isnt much that would come out of it. The expense was too much to fly from CA. However, if it was in the BA I would have gone ...
We must not,
in trying to think about
how we can make a big difference,
ignore the small daily differences
we can make which,
over time,
add up to big differences that
we often cannot foresee
Marian Wright Edelman
We must not,
in trying to think about
how we can make a big difference,
ignore the small daily differences
we can make which,
over time,
add up to big differences that
we often cannot foresee
Marian Wright Edelman
Totoro
05-16 11:29 AM
Great work toro , the article was very good...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24567987/page/2/
So do we have any update on this, will it be possible to get SSN for H4 dependents?
So far things are looking good, but I have been instructed to not discuss any specifics until the lawyers have reviewed all the information. I should know more next week. I also received a call yesterday from a congressional office, but I was unavailable to take the call. We'll see what happens.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24567987/page/2/
So do we have any update on this, will it be possible to get SSN for H4 dependents?
So far things are looking good, but I have been instructed to not discuss any specifics until the lawyers have reviewed all the information. I should know more next week. I also received a call yesterday from a congressional office, but I was unavailable to take the call. We'll see what happens.
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asanghi
09-19 05:02 PM
To everyone who thinks rallies dont make a difference, as described here : http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=13583
This is not an attack post. Or a criticizing post. This is purely educational and please keep this thread clean.
I know there are many out there who are snickering in their cubicles looking at the pictures of the rally and thinking "Look at these idiots, they think Congress will pass SKIL bill because they walked 1.2 miles with some placards and banners".
Such thinking is reasonable. But only if you dont know how things work.
Here is why rally of Sept 18th will be consequential:
1. When you do a rally, people notice. People recognize organization and measure its strength. It stays in their heads for a long time and they keep Immigration Voice as one of the organizations they can ask for support when they push for their own cause. In Congress, things work based on compromise, consensus and consultation. People dont just sponsor legislations they believe in. They run it thru their caucus and leadership and do a vote count. To find out how many votes would they get if they came up with this new idea. Whether it will get 218 votes in House. Whether they will get 51 votes in senate. If its filibuster proof and get 61 votes in Senate. Whether it has committee support. Whether leadership offices are in agreement to put it in schedule. All this happens in background and there are people who are hired in committees just to do vote counts on proposed ideas. IF it turns out they dont find enough support, they drop it. If they think they can pull it off, they approach leadership (Speaker in House, Maj leader in Senate) to put it in queue.
2. Let us say that Congressman X wants to sponser SKIL bill because of his constituency or a senator (like Feinstein) wants to sponsor AgJobs because food growers are having food rotten in absence of agricultural workers, a compelling cause. Now, when they want to pass legislation, they have to look for support and votes as described in item 1. When they fall short, they find ways to sweeten the pot. IF they see that a powerful organization will throw in their support and lobbying in favor of their bill if they attach a few of that organization's provisions, then they approach them. Immigration Voice did 138 lawmakers meetings (in House and Senate). They did the rally. They would consider IV as a organization that can help them PUSH for their legislation. Now we have a place at the negotiating table. If they attach our provisions (like recapture, or GC quota increase), then we can promise to do something for them. Like support the entire bill they are pushing for. They know that we can do rallies and we can do hundreds of lawmaker meetings. If Diane Feinstein (just an example) thinks that by adding skilled employment based reform provisions she can get IV's support and swing a few votes to help her pass her favorite AgJobs bill, then we have opportunity where the Senator would ask us what we want rather than us going and asking them to do things for us. One of IV members said that on the day of the rally, suddenly the office of her senator called her and scheduled and appointment to meet the same day at 4:00 PM. She had been trying to get the appointment but after they rally and Roll call newspaper ad (http://immigrationvoice.org/media/forums/iv/rollcal3a.pdf), they called her to listen to her. I heard about this from her just as the rally was over.
3. CIR has recently failed. From some meetings, I got the feeling that CIR's failure has left a bad taste in mouth and many people in Congress as well as administration are very upset about it still. Now that we have done this rally, done lawmaker meetings, put a rollcall ad, did the media blitz, press conference, congressional reception (where 4 congressmen attended and spoke in IV's support), they know that it would be a good idea to keep IV on their side and put some of their things in a bill. Next time they write a bill (behind closed doors very often), they will consult us and ask us if they can do something for IV to win IV's full support. That's because by getting IV's support on their side for whatever they are doing, they can be assured that we wont oppose it but instead support it. With phone calls, Rallies, paid ads, lawmaker meetings etc. If they are really investing in getting a bill passed, they would include our provisions just to increase the odds.
Strength respects strength. If we have the strength to do things and make a difference (rallies, meetings, receptions, press conferences, paid ads), then that strength begets more strenght because other powers want us to join hands with them so that they can do their favorite things (AgJobs, DREAM etc).
I thought the rally helps bring attention to our cause and put pressure. I never knew so many things go on behind the scenes.
I think by the time we get our green cards, we all will be experts in the nitty gritty of American Politics
This is not an attack post. Or a criticizing post. This is purely educational and please keep this thread clean.
I know there are many out there who are snickering in their cubicles looking at the pictures of the rally and thinking "Look at these idiots, they think Congress will pass SKIL bill because they walked 1.2 miles with some placards and banners".
Such thinking is reasonable. But only if you dont know how things work.
Here is why rally of Sept 18th will be consequential:
1. When you do a rally, people notice. People recognize organization and measure its strength. It stays in their heads for a long time and they keep Immigration Voice as one of the organizations they can ask for support when they push for their own cause. In Congress, things work based on compromise, consensus and consultation. People dont just sponsor legislations they believe in. They run it thru their caucus and leadership and do a vote count. To find out how many votes would they get if they came up with this new idea. Whether it will get 218 votes in House. Whether they will get 51 votes in senate. If its filibuster proof and get 61 votes in Senate. Whether it has committee support. Whether leadership offices are in agreement to put it in schedule. All this happens in background and there are people who are hired in committees just to do vote counts on proposed ideas. IF it turns out they dont find enough support, they drop it. If they think they can pull it off, they approach leadership (Speaker in House, Maj leader in Senate) to put it in queue.
2. Let us say that Congressman X wants to sponser SKIL bill because of his constituency or a senator (like Feinstein) wants to sponsor AgJobs because food growers are having food rotten in absence of agricultural workers, a compelling cause. Now, when they want to pass legislation, they have to look for support and votes as described in item 1. When they fall short, they find ways to sweeten the pot. IF they see that a powerful organization will throw in their support and lobbying in favor of their bill if they attach a few of that organization's provisions, then they approach them. Immigration Voice did 138 lawmakers meetings (in House and Senate). They did the rally. They would consider IV as a organization that can help them PUSH for their legislation. Now we have a place at the negotiating table. If they attach our provisions (like recapture, or GC quota increase), then we can promise to do something for them. Like support the entire bill they are pushing for. They know that we can do rallies and we can do hundreds of lawmaker meetings. If Diane Feinstein (just an example) thinks that by adding skilled employment based reform provisions she can get IV's support and swing a few votes to help her pass her favorite AgJobs bill, then we have opportunity where the Senator would ask us what we want rather than us going and asking them to do things for us. One of IV members said that on the day of the rally, suddenly the office of her senator called her and scheduled and appointment to meet the same day at 4:00 PM. She had been trying to get the appointment but after they rally and Roll call newspaper ad (http://immigrationvoice.org/media/forums/iv/rollcal3a.pdf), they called her to listen to her. I heard about this from her just as the rally was over.
3. CIR has recently failed. From some meetings, I got the feeling that CIR's failure has left a bad taste in mouth and many people in Congress as well as administration are very upset about it still. Now that we have done this rally, done lawmaker meetings, put a rollcall ad, did the media blitz, press conference, congressional reception (where 4 congressmen attended and spoke in IV's support), they know that it would be a good idea to keep IV on their side and put some of their things in a bill. Next time they write a bill (behind closed doors very often), they will consult us and ask us if they can do something for IV to win IV's full support. That's because by getting IV's support on their side for whatever they are doing, they can be assured that we wont oppose it but instead support it. With phone calls, Rallies, paid ads, lawmaker meetings etc. If they are really investing in getting a bill passed, they would include our provisions just to increase the odds.
Strength respects strength. If we have the strength to do things and make a difference (rallies, meetings, receptions, press conferences, paid ads), then that strength begets more strenght because other powers want us to join hands with them so that they can do their favorite things (AgJobs, DREAM etc).
I thought the rally helps bring attention to our cause and put pressure. I never knew so many things go on behind the scenes.
I think by the time we get our green cards, we all will be experts in the nitty gritty of American Politics
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amitjoey
05-28 03:34 PM
Thank you truthinspector, ilamurugu for your contributions
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aeroterp
07-07 01:16 PM
By exempt, you mean exempt from the cap, right? Does this mean that you still need an employer to sponsor you even if you have an advanced degree? Or can you self-petition as in the CIR?
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VaniSriram
07-18 10:02 AM
Hi All,
Please help me out here. CIO of the company I am working now as a full time employee is quitting and forming a new company. He would like to hire me for this new company. This is a start up company with 15 Million investment and a big venture capital company from NJ is also investing in the company. Would you guys see any potential problems here for H1b sponsorship?
Thanks for your reply.
Thanks,
Vani
Please help me out here. CIO of the company I am working now as a full time employee is quitting and forming a new company. He would like to hire me for this new company. This is a start up company with 15 Million investment and a big venture capital company from NJ is also investing in the company. Would you guys see any potential problems here for H1b sponsorship?
Thanks for your reply.
Thanks,
Vani
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njdude26
07-10 11:03 AM
is this for eb3 with no masters as well ?
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dagabaaj
09-25 12:47 PM
If approached in the right way there is a chance that big law firms will be helpful to us. The way to do this is politely, not raising a stink, with a credible number of their clients supporting us. The big law firms could act as a "force multiplier" to use a military term, only a small fraction of the community currently know about us, the big law firms and USCIS are the common connection for EB GC process, and USCIS is not about to email all their customers about us. With the right encouragement law firms might just help.
If they have members reading forums great. However, please do be civil.
I do understand the need to vent and rant sometimes. My personal guide is not to post anything that I do not want to be publicly (or legally) held to. Also a balanced constructive post is useful for all. So I place my full name in my signature.
Now when explained like this anyone would understand. Also do see the point you are making and is worth a try. Is the core team looking into this? Do they need any assitance from us?
If they have members reading forums great. However, please do be civil.
I do understand the need to vent and rant sometimes. My personal guide is not to post anything that I do not want to be publicly (or legally) held to. Also a balanced constructive post is useful for all. So I place my full name in my signature.
Now when explained like this anyone would understand. Also do see the point you are making and is worth a try. Is the core team looking into this? Do they need any assitance from us?
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gapala
03-21 05:35 PM
There you go. Here is the link for the opinion letter
www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf
(http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf)
Read it, Understand it and then please let me know if you still think that OP was in "unauthorized work", as this is what you have written before
I read it, not to redicule you but, look who is quoting murthy! :D :D
I don't agree with Murthy's interpretation. Here is my take on this -
US citizen of Indian origin[/COLOR] Its convenient han!
I do not want to go back and forth with you guys. I rest it and thanks for posting the link.
www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf
(http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf)
Read it, Understand it and then please let me know if you still think that OP was in "unauthorized work", as this is what you have written before
I read it, not to redicule you but, look who is quoting murthy! :D :D
I don't agree with Murthy's interpretation. Here is my take on this -
US citizen of Indian origin[/COLOR] Its convenient han!
I do not want to go back and forth with you guys. I rest it and thanks for posting the link.
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nat23
09-26 08:25 AM
MLS
How long does it take to get the "prevailing wage info"? Does it come from State DOL or the Federal DOL?? I'm from Ohio
Thanks
Nat
Hi Nat,
Fragomen took about 6 months in getting "prevailing wage info" for my case in 2001. My manager ( Canadian who had gone through US GC process himself) finally talked to them and asked them to file without waiting for DOL's reply on prevailing wage. (That was a risk but we agreed to take it at that point)
That six months delay costed me 6 years in GC processing ! But thanks to my manager , otherwise I dont know how many more years I would have waited.(One of my co-worker still awaits his labor cert !)
The big law firm goes by predefined steps , which are probably the safest way for most cases but may not be the fastest way. You need somebody who has been through this process and can understand and asks good questions to lawyers and can help lawyers to think for your perticular case. Check if you have somebody in your org to do that.
All the best.
How long does it take to get the "prevailing wage info"? Does it come from State DOL or the Federal DOL?? I'm from Ohio
Thanks
Nat
Hi Nat,
Fragomen took about 6 months in getting "prevailing wage info" for my case in 2001. My manager ( Canadian who had gone through US GC process himself) finally talked to them and asked them to file without waiting for DOL's reply on prevailing wage. (That was a risk but we agreed to take it at that point)
That six months delay costed me 6 years in GC processing ! But thanks to my manager , otherwise I dont know how many more years I would have waited.(One of my co-worker still awaits his labor cert !)
The big law firm goes by predefined steps , which are probably the safest way for most cases but may not be the fastest way. You need somebody who has been through this process and can understand and asks good questions to lawyers and can help lawyers to think for your perticular case. Check if you have somebody in your org to do that.
All the best.
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ram04
09-24 07:35 PM
Hi Prince charming,
I m in simillar situation as you are.
Transefered to new employer : Filed Ac 21,G 28 , H1 Transfered to new company through corporate lawyer
Even received EAD and AP renewals last week.
Today I have received deniel notices for me and my family applications.
Thank God I did not use my EAD so far.
Dont know what to do? It is so frustrating.
No NOID also , they sent deniel directly as your case.
Please post if you have received any updates.
Thanks
Ram
I m in simillar situation as you are.
Transefered to new employer : Filed Ac 21,G 28 , H1 Transfered to new company through corporate lawyer
Even received EAD and AP renewals last week.
Today I have received deniel notices for me and my family applications.
Thank God I did not use my EAD so far.
Dont know what to do? It is so frustrating.
No NOID also , they sent deniel directly as your case.
Please post if you have received any updates.
Thanks
Ram
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santb1975
05-01 07:31 PM
We need 939$ to get to out first 10k
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browncow
05-30 12:13 PM
Well one can avoid Air France if it 'makes you feel better'
The Crux of the matter is 'Indians discriminate Indians !!!!'. You see that everyday.....
1.Indian embassies in US...
2.Air India service is better for Goras and Goris than us...
3.Even in a website called IV and the list goes on and on.
Its been long forgotten that we were once the richest country in the world with a amazing history and cultural background.
Bottom line: Once a fellow Indian starts respecting another fellow Indian 'others will follow'.
Cheers!!!
Here, please write to AI about everything you faced:
http://home.airindia.in/SBCMS/Webpages/ContactUs.aspx?MID=207#
The Crux of the matter is 'Indians discriminate Indians !!!!'. You see that everyday.....
1.Indian embassies in US...
2.Air India service is better for Goras and Goris than us...
3.Even in a website called IV and the list goes on and on.
Its been long forgotten that we were once the richest country in the world with a amazing history and cultural background.
Bottom line: Once a fellow Indian starts respecting another fellow Indian 'others will follow'.
Cheers!!!
Here, please write to AI about everything you faced:
http://home.airindia.in/SBCMS/Webpages/ContactUs.aspx?MID=207#
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rimzhim
02-12 11:32 AM
Simple and yet we have not acted purposefully. I have a strong feeling that this visa grab is still going on. HLG has sent out another immigration alert to all registered emails, similar to one posted on Feb 9, 2007. . And I quote a bit
Stopping this 'unused visa grab' for only one section of retrogressed and demanding it for all retrogressed is a sure WIN for us, if it happens; if it is stopped, it will make a tectonic shift the focus to the whole gamut of issues of retrogression, backlogs etc and will put more pressure on Congress to act.
I have seen and read all the posts in this thread started by me. I appreciate all points and posts, particularly by core team.
The least we can do is write and fax to Congress and demand. The IV team should set up a fax, so that each of us here can protest these moves by Congress without considering other severely backlogged applications. For this I propose a simple message.
Next one/two days are crucial. Let's make a difference.
Note:
1) In the above, I am trying to be focused, addressing one issue at a time. Backlogs, Slowness, Finger Prints are also other genuine issues. Let us stop the greedy stealing by HLG and their ilk.
2) If for whatever reason IV will not come up with a web fax, a few of us must act individually and let the congressmen and senators know of our protest. I had faxed to a few Congressmen and Senators, from the fax machine at my workplace. Believe me, these types of protests have worked in the past.
nurses are needed in hospitals. ever been to one in the US? there is a big shortage of nurses. opposing numbers for nurses is unethical, because lives are saved in hospitals, and will show us in poor light.
Stopping this 'unused visa grab' for only one section of retrogressed and demanding it for all retrogressed is a sure WIN for us, if it happens; if it is stopped, it will make a tectonic shift the focus to the whole gamut of issues of retrogression, backlogs etc and will put more pressure on Congress to act.
I have seen and read all the posts in this thread started by me. I appreciate all points and posts, particularly by core team.
The least we can do is write and fax to Congress and demand. The IV team should set up a fax, so that each of us here can protest these moves by Congress without considering other severely backlogged applications. For this I propose a simple message.
Next one/two days are crucial. Let's make a difference.
Note:
1) In the above, I am trying to be focused, addressing one issue at a time. Backlogs, Slowness, Finger Prints are also other genuine issues. Let us stop the greedy stealing by HLG and their ilk.
2) If for whatever reason IV will not come up with a web fax, a few of us must act individually and let the congressmen and senators know of our protest. I had faxed to a few Congressmen and Senators, from the fax machine at my workplace. Believe me, these types of protests have worked in the past.
nurses are needed in hospitals. ever been to one in the US? there is a big shortage of nurses. opposing numbers for nurses is unethical, because lives are saved in hospitals, and will show us in poor light.
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dilber
07-07 01:04 PM
Pardon my ignorance but are these bills dead now? or are wee doing some new campaign? havent seen any new action Items or any thing. I have called and I am calling again to follow up should I keep doing this or we have some information othervise?
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03-27 12:44 AM
@smuggymba
Your's is not a valid argument - you didn't apply so other people shouldn't apply. .
-CinBoy
(EB2)
He's not cribbing about missed opportunities.
You missed his argument's main point.
Your's is not a valid argument - you didn't apply so other people shouldn't apply. .
-CinBoy
(EB2)
He's not cribbing about missed opportunities.
You missed his argument's main point.
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Totoro
05-21 01:24 PM
recently they were worked or worked to accomodate people working in US Army to be eligible if one in their family has ITIN.
Then why there are not looking at Legal Immigrants.
My contact in the government says "it was too expensive".
Then why there are not looking at Legal Immigrants.
My contact in the government says "it was too expensive".
walking_dude
09-20 08:04 AM
IV hasn't spared any efforts in attracting other Immigrants and making them comfortable in a forum with overwhelmingly high Indian members [the reality]. Like the ban on vernacular language usage on the boards, statements and posts giving a distinct Indian feel to the forum etc. And yet 98% (may be more) of those who marched on Sep 18th were Indians.
When the participation is voluntary, I fail to understand the issue of concerns over the participation of one community and the absence of others. Of course the most active protesters will always be the hardest hit.
For example, Civil Rights movement was predominantly African-American as they were the hardest hit by segregation. Ditto for the marches by Undocumented immigrants, which are predominantly Hispanic. Though it's estimated that there are around a million Indian illegals, there's hardly any Indian representation - thank God for that - at their rallies.
We should stop worrying about the ethnicity of the participants and concentrate on the issues at hand, which are affecting all ethnicities.
they always seemed to mention that Indian and Chinese legal aliens protesting backlogs. I think there should be some effort to also include people from other nationalities
When the participation is voluntary, I fail to understand the issue of concerns over the participation of one community and the absence of others. Of course the most active protesters will always be the hardest hit.
For example, Civil Rights movement was predominantly African-American as they were the hardest hit by segregation. Ditto for the marches by Undocumented immigrants, which are predominantly Hispanic. Though it's estimated that there are around a million Indian illegals, there's hardly any Indian representation - thank God for that - at their rallies.
We should stop worrying about the ethnicity of the participants and concentrate on the issues at hand, which are affecting all ethnicities.
they always seemed to mention that Indian and Chinese legal aliens protesting backlogs. I think there should be some effort to also include people from other nationalities
hsingh82
08-09 12:36 PM
Yes what you are saying is true. I am not denying that but how long can you stay on
H1B is the question. But yes I also started with 50k but I am moving up. IT salaries are higher. I know banks paying 70K and going even more above 80K. You can also work as independent contractor type unlike H1B. No middle men inbetween and all expenses before tax.
Yes ofcourse US is a far bigger economy. But I was born in India, what can I do. Within my contraints I am looking for best possibility.
When I feel down/upset I look at this video and I feel far better and motivated: YouTube - Man with no legs and arms - Inspiring story (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQPmY4nIjVE&feature=channel_page)
Since your wife is Canadian citizen, basically your downside risk in US is hedged. If things don't work out you can quickly move to Canada. But for others with Indian passport
it is not so. Like I said before I am not against working in US under TN1 or H1B. Just that
I am willing to work under desperate body shopper slave like conditions. If I get position under direct client in H1B its fine with me. In fact when your company knows that you are not that desperate they also treat you differently. Is your wife also born in Canada, if so then it is even beter, you are out of the EB-I trap. You should definiately look for US options.
Long back when we were working under H1B/OPT for a company in India, there was the annual bonus/promotion announcement. And I saw that none (except 1) of the H1Bs got a promotion. Just one H1B got promotion and that person had recent married a US citizen. Basically the company knew that its leverage over him is gone and in order to retain him they need to promote him. It is all a zero sum game my friend.
These were answers to someone who asked questions and not a reply to your post.
H1B is the question. But yes I also started with 50k but I am moving up. IT salaries are higher. I know banks paying 70K and going even more above 80K. You can also work as independent contractor type unlike H1B. No middle men inbetween and all expenses before tax.
Yes ofcourse US is a far bigger economy. But I was born in India, what can I do. Within my contraints I am looking for best possibility.
When I feel down/upset I look at this video and I feel far better and motivated: YouTube - Man with no legs and arms - Inspiring story (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQPmY4nIjVE&feature=channel_page)
Since your wife is Canadian citizen, basically your downside risk in US is hedged. If things don't work out you can quickly move to Canada. But for others with Indian passport
it is not so. Like I said before I am not against working in US under TN1 or H1B. Just that
I am willing to work under desperate body shopper slave like conditions. If I get position under direct client in H1B its fine with me. In fact when your company knows that you are not that desperate they also treat you differently. Is your wife also born in Canada, if so then it is even beter, you are out of the EB-I trap. You should definiately look for US options.
Long back when we were working under H1B/OPT for a company in India, there was the annual bonus/promotion announcement. And I saw that none (except 1) of the H1Bs got a promotion. Just one H1B got promotion and that person had recent married a US citizen. Basically the company knew that its leverage over him is gone and in order to retain him they need to promote him. It is all a zero sum game my friend.
These were answers to someone who asked questions and not a reply to your post.
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