pappu
10-14 03:35 PM
There was a Telecon held yesterday night ( 9:00 pm - 10:30 pm) on establishment of news state chapters. Some core members as well as some veteran State Chapter leaders participated along with us greenhorns (newbies). Me, Chintu25 and CagedCactus participated from Michigan. Regretfully since it was a last moment decision , more members couldn't be invited to participate.
I was active in the Telecon almost to the last (I hope). It was a highly educative and informational to listen to the IV Core perspective on State Chapters. Veterans also pitched in with their experience in organizing their chapters (some super secret recipes were revealed :)). Some chapter leaders for new chapters also introduced some great ideas. To the end, I started bombarding the core with lots of questions, and they were patient in answering all of those ( b/n 10-10:30 pm!).
Unfortunately these matters cannot be discussed in the public forum here as we are monitored by Anti-Immigrants. Ditto for E-mails and PMs as we have no way of verifying the authenticity of the other person. So please don't feel offended if your PMs and E-mail inquiries remain unanswered!
ONLY way to get acquainted with the 'inside news' is to participate in the 10/20 meeting, details of which are published below. Be there if you wish to remain in the know.
It was nice talking to you and others.
Thanks for attending the call.
I was active in the Telecon almost to the last (I hope). It was a highly educative and informational to listen to the IV Core perspective on State Chapters. Veterans also pitched in with their experience in organizing their chapters (some super secret recipes were revealed :)). Some chapter leaders for new chapters also introduced some great ideas. To the end, I started bombarding the core with lots of questions, and they were patient in answering all of those ( b/n 10-10:30 pm!).
Unfortunately these matters cannot be discussed in the public forum here as we are monitored by Anti-Immigrants. Ditto for E-mails and PMs as we have no way of verifying the authenticity of the other person. So please don't feel offended if your PMs and E-mail inquiries remain unanswered!
ONLY way to get acquainted with the 'inside news' is to participate in the 10/20 meeting, details of which are published below. Be there if you wish to remain in the know.
It was nice talking to you and others.
Thanks for attending the call.
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girijas
06-26 04:30 PM
If there any IV volunteers around DC, it would good to go his DC office and if possible meet the congressman itself to explain our case.
I am willing to do it. I did call up the local senators and congresspeople about supporting the bills. I have asked the GM of my company to give me some political contacts (am still waiting on him) since he had recently gone to DC to do some lobbying for small businesses. Let me check in the DC/MD forum and figure out who we should target/meet.
I am willing to do it. I did call up the local senators and congresspeople about supporting the bills. I have asked the GM of my company to give me some political contacts (am still waiting on him) since he had recently gone to DC to do some lobbying for small businesses. Let me check in the DC/MD forum and figure out who we should target/meet.
akred
03-14 12:08 PM
No one is talking about what happened in Apr-2001. Bill Clinton allowed all illegal aliens to file AOS in EB-3 category. That brought estimated 8-10 million filings in Jan-Apr 2001 under EB-3 category. That's why it took so long for EB-3 to get past Apr-2001. With EB-3 having a number cap, I still have a feeling that those estimated 8-10 million are still floating around in the system and dragging EB-3 category. Any thoughts on this?
In terms of applications, it was a few hundred thousand. The BECs eventually processed of 360,000 labor certifications. There probably are quite a few of these in the system who filed in June/July 07.
In terms of applications, it was a few hundred thousand. The BECs eventually processed of 360,000 labor certifications. There probably are quite a few of these in the system who filed in June/July 07.
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santb1975
04-26 04:07 PM
login to paypal and then click on send money. you will then see a text box saying To: Enter donations@immigrationvoice.org corresponding to that. Enter the amount you are willing to contribute and click on send money.Please PM me if you need further help
Its kind of confusing to make a one time donation.. and there should be two more options of $25 and $50 for one time contribution....
Can anyone tell me how to contribute one time and for the amount not mentioned on first page..
I think we should follow Hillary and Obama's grassroot campaign, whereby asking for smaller amount and that way make people more willing to contribute in smaller amounts...
Its kind of confusing to make a one time donation.. and there should be two more options of $25 and $50 for one time contribution....
Can anyone tell me how to contribute one time and for the amount not mentioned on first page..
I think we should follow Hillary and Obama's grassroot campaign, whereby asking for smaller amount and that way make people more willing to contribute in smaller amounts...
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qplearn
12-02 11:28 AM
If that is so the capital preserved by not doing an MBA in a top ten school which I estimate to be about 60-70K if I am not mistaken might be put to another use.
What do you guys think about this line of argument.
I agree with this. At Cornell, the cost is 90K, and then on their website, they say something like this: after getting our MBA you are ready for anything!
Yeah right! :)
A lot of hard data shows that that is anything but the truth. That kind of money can be spent in buying a house for instance or something that is much more worthwhile. Nowadays, there are jokes about MBAs not being able to open a pdf document.
But I must add that after you've spent 10-15 years in industry, and you want to climb the corporate ladder, an MBA from Harvard or Sloan (or the very few top schools) will definitely help. The returns fall drastically as the rank of the school falls. Surprisingly, the fees don't fall that drastically, and that's why one has to be careful.
As far as ranks, created by US News etc, go: here is the thing. Arizona State is ranked in the top 50. But does it have the same reputation as MIT? No. So even if the ranking is in the top few, make sure the reputation is truly high. And that means three or four schools: Harvard, Wharton, Sloan ...
What do you guys think about this line of argument.
I agree with this. At Cornell, the cost is 90K, and then on their website, they say something like this: after getting our MBA you are ready for anything!
Yeah right! :)
A lot of hard data shows that that is anything but the truth. That kind of money can be spent in buying a house for instance or something that is much more worthwhile. Nowadays, there are jokes about MBAs not being able to open a pdf document.
But I must add that after you've spent 10-15 years in industry, and you want to climb the corporate ladder, an MBA from Harvard or Sloan (or the very few top schools) will definitely help. The returns fall drastically as the rank of the school falls. Surprisingly, the fees don't fall that drastically, and that's why one has to be careful.
As far as ranks, created by US News etc, go: here is the thing. Arizona State is ranked in the top 50. But does it have the same reputation as MIT? No. So even if the ranking is in the top few, make sure the reputation is truly high. And that means three or four schools: Harvard, Wharton, Sloan ...
bobopotato
06-08 02:57 PM
Maybe this is a "grand scheme" to get people like us who are complaining about the current system to realize that our current system really rocks! (from what really bad nightmares it could be instead)!
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silibili
05-17 01:45 PM
Done.
Thanks!
Thanks!
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neoneo
07-17 05:28 PM
Even if SKIL goes through it'll be Oct- 2007 befire its being actually implemented by USCIS. So you have atleast 15 odd months of wait.
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JazzByTheBay
09-20 04:03 PM
..from any single state, afaik (perhaps with the exception of NJ, don't have the exact numbers - but in stark contrast to many other states... ).
Also note, the attendance at short notice for the SJ rally was phenomenal.
Let's just say Californians are more motivated and active then many from the DC area, and you can expect an even larger crowd the next time around, with better planning and more time imo.
jazz
Jaime, your thought of having one more rally in Silicon Valley is a good one but again you are going to have the same crowd..!!
People in neighbouring states of DC did not make it , you tthink they will make it all the way to west coast! very doubtful!!
We should aim at bringing in more people to this family as possible..
Looks like a simultaneous rally on a weekend will be very effective!
And this time for the rally we will carry one one slogan banners
'SHORTEN THE WAIT FOR LEGAL IMMIGRANTS' or something similar!
just a thought!
Also note, the attendance at short notice for the SJ rally was phenomenal.
Let's just say Californians are more motivated and active then many from the DC area, and you can expect an even larger crowd the next time around, with better planning and more time imo.
jazz
Jaime, your thought of having one more rally in Silicon Valley is a good one but again you are going to have the same crowd..!!
People in neighbouring states of DC did not make it , you tthink they will make it all the way to west coast! very doubtful!!
We should aim at bringing in more people to this family as possible..
Looks like a simultaneous rally on a weekend will be very effective!
And this time for the rally we will carry one one slogan banners
'SHORTEN THE WAIT FOR LEGAL IMMIGRANTS' or something similar!
just a thought!
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obviously
07-23 10:31 PM
What an absolutely useless discussion! EB2 and EB3 are based on each employer's attestation of job/work requirements.
Obviously, there is little correlation between book knowledge and real world results. Highly educated lawyers and Top B School MBA's can be found stuck in dead end jobs or suboptimal careers while barely educated street smart folks can be found enjoying productive careers.
So, let us stop this nonsensical analysis about something that adds ZERO value towards the core mission and objectives.
Lets use those 'high skilled' grey cells for something that matters. Stay away from the keyboard if you cannot resist the urge to puke over it with your fingers putting forth filth.
Seriously. Take a break folks!
Obviously, there is little correlation between book knowledge and real world results. Highly educated lawyers and Top B School MBA's can be found stuck in dead end jobs or suboptimal careers while barely educated street smart folks can be found enjoying productive careers.
So, let us stop this nonsensical analysis about something that adds ZERO value towards the core mission and objectives.
Lets use those 'high skilled' grey cells for something that matters. Stay away from the keyboard if you cannot resist the urge to puke over it with your fingers putting forth filth.
Seriously. Take a break folks!
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spicy_guy
05-26 03:27 PM
Please donate guys.
Has anyone posted this link on other forums?
Has anyone posted this link on other forums?
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rennieallen
09-29 06:36 PM
then why are visas about to be wasted yet again this year?
after...they said all numbers were exhausted on July 2?
Because of NC what else?
i think it's not quite that simple.
there is no doubt that lack of numbers is a key key issue. but letting uscis off the hook when they have failed to process 269,000 Green Card numbers since 1994 is not kosher. that is >20% of the backlog right there.
Sigh... it's never simple...
That said, NC can account for nearly all of the wastage. Think about it, let's say the processing time is 120 days (well within target, and not at all bad for a government agency).
OK; recall that you can't apply until your PD is current (read this sentence again, this is a critical element of the problem).
Application #1 (made in first half of year, visa tentatively assigned from current allotment year) -> PD current, goes into NC.
Application #2 (can't be made in first half of year, because PD is not current, visa is not "tentatively" assigned from current allotment year, since it isn't expected to complete within the allotment year) -> PD becomes current in July, NC happens quickly.
Application #2 takes 120 days to process (better than target), but that means that (as expected) it isn't ready to be assigned a visa until after the next allotment year (so far so good, USCIS has accounted for this, and doesn't expect it to consume a visa from the current allotment year).
So application #1 couldn't consume a visa because of NC, and application #2 fell into the normal processing time, but this pushed it into the next allotment year (again, this is expected).
Early in the next allotment year Application #2 is approved, and consumes one visa from the next allotment year.
Application #1 is where the actual wastage occurs, since it is expected that an application filed in the first half of the current allotment year will consume it's visa within the year (and given USCIS processing time it would have, but it was stuck in NC).
So at any time, the USCIS is processing applications within their target processing times, but because of the fact that you can't file until your PD is current, the applications that would have been able to have consumed the visas that were not consumed due to NC delays, couldn't because their "normal" processing time put them into the next allotment period.
So why not let people apply before their PD is current then?
The reason USCIS doesn't let you apply before the PD is current is because there aren't enough visas and they would currently have ~3M applications in process, many of which would be abandoned prior to approval (due to the long delays, caused by lack of visas).
So, because of the insufficient numbers of visas, USCIS has determined that it is more efficient to restrict application until the PD is current; thus insuring that most of the applications that are going to be abandoned, are abandoned before they are filed (therefore reducing load on the USCIS). This seems like quite a logical decision given the constraints.
I am willing to bet, that the net result is that the USCIS can actually approve more 485's in an allotment year by wasting some of them at the end of the year (which occurs primarily as a result of the fact that USCIS can neither predict, nor influence NC duration), rather than dealing with the huge inefficiencies of having millions of applications on file (which would, however, insure that there were sufficient processed applications to consume all visas).
If either NC were predictable (and quick) or there were sufficient visas in each allotment period to meet demand, then there would be no wastage. You can beat on USCIS all you want, but they simply cannot control either of these factors...
Like I said... it is never simple...
Now, this thought is hardly original (I think that everyone who has looked at this problem comes to the same conclusion), but I think the most practical solution that we (as customers of the system) can suggest, that will provide partial relief (and has some chance of happening in our lifetimes); is to get congress to pass an amendment for automatic reclamation of visas from prior allotment periods. This would mitigate the problem of visa wastage, as this will allow a substantial portion of what would have been wasted visas, to be consumed by the applications who's PD became current in the second half of the allotment year, but could not be processed (due to normal processing time) prior to the end of the allotment year. Perhaps this reclamation could be restricted to applications filed in the allotment period from which the visas are being reclaimed (if this somehow made it more palatable to congress).
Of course, this does nothing to solve the problem for those individuals stuck in NC who are effectively "donating" their visa to individuals who aren't stuck in NC. Perhaps they will feel better (I seriously doubt it though) knowing that the visa that they didn't get this year, was not wasted...
my straightforward NIW application based on national interest service not exceptional ability (which may be more subjective) will take almost a year to process. wow....!
In Canada this would be expected to take 8 months to process. Like I said, the USCIS is quick relative to other bureaucracies...
uscis also takes the narrowest interpretations of any law- even when it clearly conflicts with the law's intent- then it takes a lawsuit to budge them- speaking from personal experience and the loss of 4 years in PD in an India line...believe me this is not an agency i feel like defending.
just my 2c.
I am certainly not asking you to defend them.
This isn't about defending or attacking USCIS, it is about determining the root cause of the problem, and doing that requires an emotionless analysis of the facts.
I have had IO's who were complete dorks (refused to admit me with a perfectly valid visa), but really, what impact does one dork IO have on the big picture? Absolutely nothing I suspect (and to be fair, the vast majority of IO's that I have dealt with have been very decent human beings).
after...they said all numbers were exhausted on July 2?
Because of NC what else?
i think it's not quite that simple.
there is no doubt that lack of numbers is a key key issue. but letting uscis off the hook when they have failed to process 269,000 Green Card numbers since 1994 is not kosher. that is >20% of the backlog right there.
Sigh... it's never simple...
That said, NC can account for nearly all of the wastage. Think about it, let's say the processing time is 120 days (well within target, and not at all bad for a government agency).
OK; recall that you can't apply until your PD is current (read this sentence again, this is a critical element of the problem).
Application #1 (made in first half of year, visa tentatively assigned from current allotment year) -> PD current, goes into NC.
Application #2 (can't be made in first half of year, because PD is not current, visa is not "tentatively" assigned from current allotment year, since it isn't expected to complete within the allotment year) -> PD becomes current in July, NC happens quickly.
Application #2 takes 120 days to process (better than target), but that means that (as expected) it isn't ready to be assigned a visa until after the next allotment year (so far so good, USCIS has accounted for this, and doesn't expect it to consume a visa from the current allotment year).
So application #1 couldn't consume a visa because of NC, and application #2 fell into the normal processing time, but this pushed it into the next allotment year (again, this is expected).
Early in the next allotment year Application #2 is approved, and consumes one visa from the next allotment year.
Application #1 is where the actual wastage occurs, since it is expected that an application filed in the first half of the current allotment year will consume it's visa within the year (and given USCIS processing time it would have, but it was stuck in NC).
So at any time, the USCIS is processing applications within their target processing times, but because of the fact that you can't file until your PD is current, the applications that would have been able to have consumed the visas that were not consumed due to NC delays, couldn't because their "normal" processing time put them into the next allotment period.
So why not let people apply before their PD is current then?
The reason USCIS doesn't let you apply before the PD is current is because there aren't enough visas and they would currently have ~3M applications in process, many of which would be abandoned prior to approval (due to the long delays, caused by lack of visas).
So, because of the insufficient numbers of visas, USCIS has determined that it is more efficient to restrict application until the PD is current; thus insuring that most of the applications that are going to be abandoned, are abandoned before they are filed (therefore reducing load on the USCIS). This seems like quite a logical decision given the constraints.
I am willing to bet, that the net result is that the USCIS can actually approve more 485's in an allotment year by wasting some of them at the end of the year (which occurs primarily as a result of the fact that USCIS can neither predict, nor influence NC duration), rather than dealing with the huge inefficiencies of having millions of applications on file (which would, however, insure that there were sufficient processed applications to consume all visas).
If either NC were predictable (and quick) or there were sufficient visas in each allotment period to meet demand, then there would be no wastage. You can beat on USCIS all you want, but they simply cannot control either of these factors...
Like I said... it is never simple...
Now, this thought is hardly original (I think that everyone who has looked at this problem comes to the same conclusion), but I think the most practical solution that we (as customers of the system) can suggest, that will provide partial relief (and has some chance of happening in our lifetimes); is to get congress to pass an amendment for automatic reclamation of visas from prior allotment periods. This would mitigate the problem of visa wastage, as this will allow a substantial portion of what would have been wasted visas, to be consumed by the applications who's PD became current in the second half of the allotment year, but could not be processed (due to normal processing time) prior to the end of the allotment year. Perhaps this reclamation could be restricted to applications filed in the allotment period from which the visas are being reclaimed (if this somehow made it more palatable to congress).
Of course, this does nothing to solve the problem for those individuals stuck in NC who are effectively "donating" their visa to individuals who aren't stuck in NC. Perhaps they will feel better (I seriously doubt it though) knowing that the visa that they didn't get this year, was not wasted...
my straightforward NIW application based on national interest service not exceptional ability (which may be more subjective) will take almost a year to process. wow....!
In Canada this would be expected to take 8 months to process. Like I said, the USCIS is quick relative to other bureaucracies...
uscis also takes the narrowest interpretations of any law- even when it clearly conflicts with the law's intent- then it takes a lawsuit to budge them- speaking from personal experience and the loss of 4 years in PD in an India line...believe me this is not an agency i feel like defending.
just my 2c.
I am certainly not asking you to defend them.
This isn't about defending or attacking USCIS, it is about determining the root cause of the problem, and doing that requires an emotionless analysis of the facts.
I have had IO's who were complete dorks (refused to admit me with a perfectly valid visa), but really, what impact does one dork IO have on the big picture? Absolutely nothing I suspect (and to be fair, the vast majority of IO's that I have dealt with have been very decent human beings).
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sanjay
06-24 09:23 AM
Hi,
Sorry for late jumping on this old topic. But, applied for SSN for my wife and got it in mail. Now what? My taxes for last year were applied in feb this year. How can I tell IRS that my wife got SSN now and she is eligible for Stimulus package?
Can I claim this amount next year when I file my taxes?
Thanks.
Boss, any suggestions here?
Thanks.
Sorry for late jumping on this old topic. But, applied for SSN for my wife and got it in mail. Now what? My taxes for last year were applied in feb this year. How can I tell IRS that my wife got SSN now and she is eligible for Stimulus package?
Can I claim this amount next year when I file my taxes?
Thanks.
Boss, any suggestions here?
Thanks.
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luckylavs
06-13 08:36 PM
we all know about the VB which current now. I myself am happy to see this.But my question is why all of a suden it became current and what will happen in future?
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eb3India
06-08 03:50 PM
Did anyone research whether it is possible to get some relief through rulemaking, instead of legislation? For example, there is no 'explicit' prohibition against issuing employment authorization to spouses of H1bi employees. The rule-making agency (in this case the DHS or USCIS) can grant a benefit that spouses be provided with employment authorization. Recently, the USCIS actually did provide regulatory relief by de-coupling the H1bi period of stay from the period of stay in H4 status. An idea to consider...
well I don't think anyone spent time in understanding current law and try to work for us,
current immigration law is very subjective and many organizations or interpretting for their own advantage,
we just need to put some effort to see how we can close certain loopholes and make better for us, e.g. labour subst, was big loophole, thank god itz closed now,
I think we should not discuss stratergies any more in this public forum and should take this outside either on conf call or thru private message
well I don't think anyone spent time in understanding current law and try to work for us,
current immigration law is very subjective and many organizations or interpretting for their own advantage,
we just need to put some effort to see how we can close certain loopholes and make better for us, e.g. labour subst, was big loophole, thank god itz closed now,
I think we should not discuss stratergies any more in this public forum and should take this outside either on conf call or thru private message
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singhsa3
07-17 10:22 PM
What freedom and justice you are talking about? The folks on this forum are not responsible for you misery. So stop venting you frustation here. Though, I sympathize with you situtation but unfortuantely the whole legal system is unfair.
What we have done here is a good start, soon we will lobby for passing of SKIL bill . And the day is not far when you too will be benefitted by these efforts
Are you the guy who came up with a stupid idea of creating an entire thread for banning people? You probably don't even know the definition of Freedom and Injustice and you say you studied in US (did you pass?). and hey my earlier post was not a response to you.
What we have done here is a good start, soon we will lobby for passing of SKIL bill . And the day is not far when you too will be benefitted by these efforts
Are you the guy who came up with a stupid idea of creating an entire thread for banning people? You probably don't even know the definition of Freedom and Injustice and you say you studied in US (did you pass?). and hey my earlier post was not a response to you.
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surabhi
06-25 05:49 PM
Yes , its Free :D Anyway - lets talk with a 3rd person (maybe USCIS) and confirm. Its Free, if you read the EAD forms its clearly written that once some one pays $340 ( not other amount) it becomes FREE for ever. I just checked the EAD forms again before writing this post - let me PASTE from EAD forms if that clear the confusion.
Renewal EAD: If this is a renewal application and you
applying under one of the following categories, a filing fee
not required:
1. (a)(8) Citizen of Micronesia, Marshall Islands, or Palau;
3. (a)(11) Deferred Enforced Departure; or
2. (a)(10) Granted Withholding of Deportation;
4. (c)(l), (c)(4), or (c)(7) Dependent of certain foreign government, international organization, or NATO personnel;
5. (c)(9) or (c)(16) adjustment applicant who filed for adjustment under the fee structure implemented July 30, 2007.
Its free only for those who file I-485 ( Not EAD) under new fee structure. Thats what it says in point# 5. adjustment applicant who filed for adjustment under the fee structure implemented July 30, 2007 . Its about I-485 application, not EAD
Renewal EAD: If this is a renewal application and you
applying under one of the following categories, a filing fee
not required:
1. (a)(8) Citizen of Micronesia, Marshall Islands, or Palau;
3. (a)(11) Deferred Enforced Departure; or
2. (a)(10) Granted Withholding of Deportation;
4. (c)(l), (c)(4), or (c)(7) Dependent of certain foreign government, international organization, or NATO personnel;
5. (c)(9) or (c)(16) adjustment applicant who filed for adjustment under the fee structure implemented July 30, 2007.
Its free only for those who file I-485 ( Not EAD) under new fee structure. Thats what it says in point# 5. adjustment applicant who filed for adjustment under the fee structure implemented July 30, 2007 . Its about I-485 application, not EAD
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reddog
04-10 02:04 PM
How do you check the comments when someone REDs you? I've been looking around but haven't found the link.
Try to add reputation to yourself, you will see all the Greens/Reds given to you for that comment, along with the comments on the reds.
Try to add reputation to yourself, you will see all the Greens/Reds given to you for that comment, along with the comments on the reds.
GCard_Dream
03-20 04:11 PM
You are certainly entitled to your interpretation and Mr. Gotcher is entitled to his but I wouldn't go as far as calling it a ploy to increase more traffic. I am not sure if you are an attorney but he is and he certainly has more understanding of immigration law than most of us here. As with any law and immigration in particular, there is room left for interpretation and Mr. Gotcher is simply stating his point of view. You are more than welcome to disagree with him but I wouldn't call him greedy.
i dont think its a controversy. mr. Gotcher does not agree with the interpretation. Maybe its a way to generate some additional revenues for his firm by increased traffic to the blog and potentially a class action lawsuit on behalf of the ROW people.
i dont think its a controversy. mr. Gotcher does not agree with the interpretation. Maybe its a way to generate some additional revenues for his firm by increased traffic to the blog and potentially a class action lawsuit on behalf of the ROW people.
m306m
04-30 02:28 PM
Guys,
lets get to $10K today. IV needs money to lobby. Please dig deeper and contribute to this effort.
lets get to $10K today. IV needs money to lobby. Please dig deeper and contribute to this effort.
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